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You should never measure the bust for a bra. It should be done by sight. I know for years I was told by a store that I was an AA cup. I booked and paid for implants, then went to a profesional and I was a C cup. It was too late by then the damage was done in my head I am one of millions.
I am currently 17 years old, and my breast size is 34A. I am 5'3 and I weigh 116 lbs. I used to be VERY uncomfortable with my breast size, I felt that guys would find me unattractive, especially in a bikini because it appears as though I have no cleavage in one. But then I realized that my breast are beautiful, even though they are small. I now know that if I did have large breasts, I would look chunky, because even though I am thin, I have some booty to even me out. If I ever need a good confidence booster, I just pull out my "wonder bra" and walk around in it... Which sounds odd, but trust me, it helps. Personally I think it is the best push-up bra in the world... If only there was a bikini that could create that lift for me, I'd walk around all day without a shirt on! =)
Just remember that even though society creates these picture-perfect women with large breasts, it doesn't mean that they are what all men want. I'm engaged, and finally feel comfortable in my own skin because this one amazing person told me that I was "BEAUTIFUL, JUST THE WAY I AM... AND THAT HE LOVES ME, "FLAWS" AND ALL"... If you care to hear any funny stories about what I used to put myself through just to make it appear as though I had breasts, let me know. I'd be more than happy to show you that you don't need to fit into that cliche American woman's body... You ARE beautiful... Just the way you are!! =)
Brittany
Can anyone remember a special bra from the late seventies, early eighties, that had a shelf with two adjustible straps, one on each side of the breast, holding it up to the shoulder straps. The breasts were sitting between these. A piece of fabric then covered up the breast and hooked to the strap. This bra held in the sides and lifted the breast so it was supported by the shelf. I would love to find out if I can still purchase one of these. All I remember is I had to go to someones home to be fitted. Can anyone help me with this?
darla
I would suggest you get a friend to measure you. It is very difficult to measure oneself. When you lift your arms you distort the measurement. Have her measure you wearing your bra first under the breast at the ribcage with your arms down, then at the fullest part of your bust. If you have breast tissue that has moved toward the underarm area, take another measurement under your armpits. To get a better band size, add this to the ribcage measurement and divide by 2. Then do the calculation subtracting this from the fullest part to get a cup size. Unfortunately, underwires do not give support. Larger breasted women benefit from a "shelf" bra design which lifts the tissue. Hope this helps.
Patricia
This is a great read and fantastic to see other people helping women find the correct fitting bra. It's something we're very passionate about at Simply Yours, where we sell bras up to JJ cup and some styles in K & L cups. We've created our own Underwear Expert section to help, with bra fitting guides and guides to the different styles of lingerie available: http://www.simplyyours.co.uk/shop/page?pageId=3115 Thanks for spreading the word and sharing the Simply Yours bra fitting fitting videos with your readers too.
Charlotte
I am an average size woman (age 28) with a larger bosom - 34dd ish. I find that regular bras always ride up in the back, and the boobs go down in the front - one thing that fixed this for me was a suggestion from the fitter I emailed on Lingerienyc.com. She was really helpful and suggested a LONGLINE bra - I can't tell you how much this helped. I think I have been hunching over because the bras I was wearing were uncomfortable - the weight in the front, etc. but the longline bra is like a corset / bra in one, so the bra can't ride up in the back - and it relieves the weight from the front. It looks granny-ish, but makes me look perkier and like I'm standing up straighter when I am dressed, so I'm switching out all my bras. I think women with bigger busts would find this useful too.
Lauren
HI, everybody!
I just watched this site (great thing) but I'm terrified with the total lack of knowledge about bra sizes and bra fitting. Look at the example. A slim girl and size 34 ????
This is for really round woman or strongly built - at least 80cm under the breasts!!!
Cup 34B is for a woman who has 80 cm under the breasts and 89 in the breasts. This girl should wear about 30FF. The common mistake is that women wear too wide bands and too small cups. Of course such bra doesn't keep and shape the breasts as it should.
Women also say - I wear cup B. There is nothing like cup B - 28B is much smaller than 38B - which is by the way for a woman 90/95 cm under breasts and 99 in breasts - how many such women do you know? It is a nonexistent size - in nature, of course, because shops are full of it.
My size is 70 cm under breasts and 96 in the breasts. I wear 65(30)G. Why 65 ? Because bands are strechy!!! And a band 70 cm (32) is to loose to keep well on the body. It can't move when I move, can't make an arch on my back, must be on the same level around body.
Before I wore size 34D - it was uncomfortable and my my breast started to lose shape.
Best regards
Ewa
Why are the enclosures in the back? Companies should be more in touch with the needs of their aging clients.
SueI think this page explains it plus sells some bras with hooks on front. You can find more by searching for "surgical bras", front closure bras, or front close bras.
Or, use the trick that you put the bra on so the back is at front, then hook it, then rotate it so it is the right way.
I agree with Jen - above - I measure as a 34 b, sometimes c (my breasts like to fluctuate in size) and have bras in both sizes but am never ever comfortable, often it feels like they are constricting my breathing and in social situations I often sneak to the bathrrom to remove it because it feels awful. It usen't be like this though. Any advice would be appreciated,
Stacey
Great instructions only like every other one I've seen it suggests using a well fitting bra for measurements and the reason i need to be measured is because none of my bras fit well!
Amy L
I was fitted by a woman once when I was pregnant with my first child, because by the time I was 15 weeks pregnant I was already making milk and had certanly grown out of the 36DDD I was wearing. I was fitted at the time at a 38JJ, and they were nursing bras so stiff you'd think they were made from cardboard. Since then I'm smaller but still not small enough to walk into a store and buy a bra and walk out with it. It is very frusterating trying to figure out what bra you fit in, can afford, and looks nice; when trying to shop through a computer and you can't try them on. Anyway, thank you for the info and the links, I'm going to home fit myself to reduce my back pain and try to find something fitted and pretty to were as a bridesmaid for an up-coming wedding!
Christine
I would like to say well done for including dads in this guide. It is the only guide I've seen after trawling through the web that include dads so well done to you
katie
This page has a lot of good info, though I disagree with the instructions to add four to five inches to the under-bust to find band size. I think that the MOST you should add, even for the very tightest brands, is two to three inches. For example, I measure 27" beneath my bust, and I wear 28s. Only UK brands, which tend to be slightly more generous than American, make 28s, but I think that if US brands made 28s and 30s, I could definitely wear a 30 in few brands (e.g., Wacoal, who make really tight bands). Any good fitter will not use a tape measure to fit you, though.
Some of the links here are also misleading. The page that shows women's breasts arranged by size, for example, not only presents an inaccurate sizing method (adding 4-5") but also quite obviously has the wrong size for many of the photos.
Bra sizing is an issue near and dear to my heart. I think it's essential that women wear correctly fitted bras, and in the United States, this is nearly impossible to do since so few stores stock the full range, 28-56 AA-K. Victoria's Secret is utterly horrid: they have a severely limited range and misinformed fitters yet manage to market themselves as the best. Nordstrom, I believe, is the chain that's best at fittings, but even then they use a measurements to fit you, and most of their locations only offer down to a 32 band size (I have seen a few 30s).
My story: I started out in 34Cs that caused a lot of pain. I finally got fitted at Nordstrom to a 32DD. This was miles better - I was so much more confident. After a while, and as I become accustomed to what a 'good-fitting' bra should look and feel like, I knew that my bands were just too big - they slid around when I moved and frequently slipped off my shoulders. A whole bunch of internet research confirmed my suspicions, and, to my delight and surprise, I discovered that smaller band sizes are not only available but also common among women who are in the right size. I ordered some 30Es from Figleaves, which were slightly too small in the cup; I could also easily fasten them on the smallest hook. Hesitant, I ordered 28FFs. I couldn't believe they fit at first. I went from a 34C to a 32DD to a 28FF. It was ridiculous to me... After all, I look really, really normal, but I can't deny that they fit so much better. There are so many misconceptions surrounding bra sizes - that anything under 34 is 'skinny', that DD+ cups are huge, etc. If you think you might be in the wrong size, absolutely don't be scared off by 'weird' sizes like 32E, 30H, or 28G. They do exist!
If you're interested, check out Bravissimo's website. They have a really awesome fitting guide as well as some pictures of properly sized women. It's quite plain that a 32 band is average and not necessarily thin, and sizes like 30GG aren't at all of Barbie doll proportions.
Sara
Hi,
I just want to start off by saying that your site is a credit to the human race! As a young teenager I was a very late bloomer who constantly complained about my lack of breasts, as a half Chinese woman I assumed that my genes had decided I was to be a 32A for the rest of my life, when I turned 17 my breasts started to grow and didn't stop! By the time I was 18 I was the new owner of what I thought were 34DD.The growth spurt came to be quite a shock, I became self conscious and began to gain a lot of negative attention. Being a petite woman (5'3" 105 lbs) my breasts seemed to doom my clothing options. Than one day while browsing though the pictures I noticed the caption below a set of beautiful breasts exclaiming that she was a size 38H, I had never heard of such a size, more research lead me to get professionally sized , lo and behold I am a 28FF! Not only did I look SO much better in a proper fitting bra, but I felt beautiful again!
I suppose the moral of my story is that your site not only helped me love these orbs stuck to my chest, but they made me take steps to ensure their health down the road (Imagine if I had gone about all these years with a band size 3 sizes too big?)
Perhaps the only thing I would like to add to your site would be information about dealing with a larger bust to waist ratio. Being busty and petite is hard but brands like Bravissimo with their "Curvy Clothing" tailored to fit where it should with no gaping buttons, and Freya who makes gorgeous bras in every size imaginable!
Thank you so much for this site as I know it debunks so many myths and mysteries to million of women (and men!)around the world.
Sincerely,
Cynthia.
Thank you so much! I am 12 almost 13 and i have had my period for for a year and a half. ish. and my mom and are not close at all, and she wears a 32A, and she gave me all of her old bras wich were 32 or 34 As. They didnt really fit, but i was kind of afraid to tell her that, because my boobs are bigger than hers and she is always like oh i am sooo jealous of you. This website really helped me find out that i was a 32C. so thank you lots! and my boobies thank you too!!! :)
jess
Thanks I just took a course in fitting at my job and this helped me to remember and to write down what I forgot. The course I took was video and was great and this was the same just in words.
Noretta
I think this helped. The only thing it should speak up about is people with different shaped breasts. There is about a cupsize difference between my breasts and it makes bra shopping nearly impossible.
Jenell
You should have on your fitting page that for many women only adding 2-3 inches works better for the band size. This is common in the UK where bra sizes range 26-50+ and cups AA - JJ. If you are wearing an H or higher, you should try those bras - they are designed for a lower breast and to take the weight off the shoulders. They have been a godsend for me! (34GG not pregnant, 36 HH+ at 6 months pregnant)
LadyG
I cried when I found your website. I am petite-sized (chest 29 inches)and large busted (H cup). I have struggled all my life to find a bra to fit, having large breasts that collect sweat under them and bang around and hurt if brafree. I have been "professionally fitted" with bras that are way too small, and my breast actually feels bruised after wearing those bras. I am going to go brafree at home more often, to improve circulation and lymph flow. Hurrah for your information and website!!
Katie
I found your site while using Google, and viewing the "normal breast gallery" really helped me to get over myself and finally come to terms with my breasts. I'm American and I grew up in a European household (both my parents are from Italy) and after my brother left for college my mom would walk around the upstairs topless or fully naked all the time and we'd share a bathroom where she'd put her makeup on topless. I was used to seeing the naked female form, but since she is from the very conservative island of Sicily, she always made a point to tell me to keep my breasts covered up around my father and brother and especially in public. It actually took her a few years to come to terms with my affinity for low cut tops that put my ample cleavage on display. I grew up understanding that breasts were basically milk bottles and nothing more, it took an introduction to American media when I was in middle school to understand that in the U.S. breasts are considered to be sexual, not nurturing.
But, despite growing up in a situation that made breasts normal, not sexual, when mine grew in, I hated them and felt that they just made me different, when I wanted desperately to fit in. I started developing a chest when I was in 4th grade and my mom started putting me into sports bras to help bind them down so I could play and not be singled out and teased by the other kids, and at that time I was already an A cup. I bought my first bra in 5th grade and was already a B cup. By the time I hit 6th grade, my breasts had grow to a C cup and by the time I ended high school I was a full D, probably a small DD. I hated my breasts with a passion. They were nothing like the small perky ones that my mother had, they were large and saggy like my grandmother's and aunts' and don't fit in a bra very well. I always stood out as the girl with the large chest, but I was never teased because of it. I never hid my breasts by changing in a toilet stall before lacrosse practice, I would just rip off my shirt, pull my sports bra on over my bra and then take off the regular bra without missing a beat. I was respected for that, as I was one of the few who had that kind of body confidence.
In college, I gained 45 lbs and my breasts grew to a DD!!! But I had no clue! I was wearing a 38D or a 40C as that's what the girls at Victoria's Secret told me I was. It took watching Oprah's bra show back in June 2005 that made me think "I'm wearing the wrong size and bra!" and I immediately stopped shopping at Victoria's Secret and went to the nearby Nordstrom and had my first professional bra fitting. That's when I found out that the C that Victoria's Secret swore I was, probably to make the sale, was the completely wrong size! They were so far off that it was almost comical! That day in the Nordstrom fitting room, I was measured as a 40DD. I was floored. I knew I was big, but never thought I was THAT big! I now wear the right size and only buy my bras at Nordstrom despite the extra expense. But despite wearing the right size, I still have issues with fit. My breasts are so saggy that all bras just feel like they're crushing my breasts into my chest and I always feel like i'm slipping out from under the wire whether the bra is lace, cotton, or formed foam cups. So, I'm always adjusting to make myself feel more comfortable. I've also lost 20lbs and found my DD bras were just too big, so I went back to Nordstrom and was remeasured as a very full 38D very small 38DD. I went with the smaller size as I am planning on losing more weight.
I'm now coming to terms with my breasts, that they are saggy because they grew in so fast. They're getting perkier b/c I'm losing weight. I have stretch marks due to the rapid development (I swear I went to bed one night flat and woke up the next with breasts). Seeing your site and viewing the gallery made me think for the first time in my life with breasts "Oh my! I'm NORMAL!!!" As a larger chested woman, I have always wanted small breasts so I could get the cute designer bras, but have now found the amazing British brand, Fantasie, which only makes plus sized bras that aren't "granny" bras, and have found amazing extended size sports bras from Moving Comfort and a local runner's store carries them. But I always told my mom, I would throw a party once my breasts shrink down enough to no longer be classified as "plus-sized" and as I lose weight, I'm heading closer to that goal. But until then, I will love my breasts they are and not how I want them to be.
thanks again!--
~liz
I have a recomendation for an exceptional nursing bra by Glamourmom. Its a cotton camisole with a shelf bra and space for nursing pads. The bra is so comfortable, I will probably wear them after my son is done nursing. They come in a variety of colors, too.
Schorre'
The problem I have it that I measure as a 38J (yes you did read that right). The trouble is that this seems fine. The band is good, the cups fit the besoms perfectly. My breasts aren't uncomfortable. My ribs are another matter. No matter what style of bra I but I end up with the side bones digging into my ribs. I tried going up a band size but then the band was too loose and if I go up a cup size there's gaping fabric and I still get bruised ribs.
I think I'm a weird shape or something.
I've always been large chested, at 13 I was a 36D. Now that I'm 25 and have a child, my breasts are larger then I ever imagined they would get. After having my son I still tried to squeeze into a 40DD for almost a year, but I re-measured and found out that I'm a 42F/G. I believe that so many women are like me and believe that they're smaller then they really are because society looks at D and DD as huge and they really aren't. I would love to be a DD.
Jill
Looking for a store to visit in New York City that has a service for hard to fit bra. Wear a 36-38 DDD or E bra, with saging breasts. Also, looking for bra built in cup bathing suit, must be good foundation and wire support.
Nancy C. Groff
am looking for someone to custom make me a non underwire bra that fits and is comfortable in ny metro area. hate them all, but must wear one for work as i teach high school... usually rip them off in car on way home. please recommend, do not want the hassle of returning bras by mail, want to be able to go someplace, and see, try on, etc. thanks.
eileen
Boy do i have a problem, I am a 28 year old who is not ready to except that my breasts sag.I've had two children gained and lost a lot of weight and my breasts show it. My problem is I want lift and seperation, and I wouldn't mind a little cleavage at times.I can't seem to find this without getting the Spillage in the middle where my floppy breasts fall out of my bras.I have tryed many bras and sizes. I do have large breasts they are 36DD.I have payed for cheap bras and costly ones nothing seams to fit right. please help me. :)
TrudyPlease realize that I am not a professional bra fitter, or any kind of bra fitter for that matter. If you have spillage, it usually means too small cup size. Other than that, I don't know. Check the links mentioned above on this page.
hi i am 12 and i will be 13 in aq few months i have had my period now for almost 2 years my breasts are huge (32d) and really close together which makes it hard to wear underwired bra's so i have to wear non wired bras so m breasts a re always droopy. if any one has any answers that could help me could you plz email me @ lilmissnaughty_572@hotmail.co.uk thanx lucy
Lucy
I have large pendelous breasts and can't seem to find the right bra. None of the stores in my area have my size, 48 H so I order online. When I get the bras, none of them fit, the cup size is okay but the band size is way too small. I have lost weight and thought that my chest would reduce also. It isn't, and I am getting very discouraged. My present bra is uncomfortable and gives me those marks that you speak about. When I am at home, I do go braless and after reading your article, I am glad that I do. Is there any place that I can go to get a proper bra? I live close to New York City so I can go there but I prefer to travel out to Long Island. Thank you for your help.
Romy
Thanks for the tips in measuring for a bra, I hope it works when I go shopping for my next bra, I am 70 years young and have very saggy breast and cant find a bra that does not cut me around the band, I am also shotr waisted and they seen to roll up and cut even more, If you have any suggestions on what style and brand feel free to let me know, Seems like I have tried them all and spent a fortune as well, Thanks you Madelyn Hutto
madelyn huttoI would suggest a personal fitting by a professional, or possibly by custom-made bras.
Thanks for your website! I'll take my small breasts anytime!!
Sue
I'm a fitter at a local department store. I was looking for info to better help customers. Thank you for this site. I come in contact with ladies with small measurement who need special made bras to fit them proper. I want to be a big help to the many women I come in contact with. I did not know that you need to give the breast rest from the bra for 12 hours. Will past this on any other info thanks again for this site
Margaret Robinson
One thing I've noticed in fitting myself for bras is that I'm NOT what I'm told! I measure to be a 34B, but when I wear that size, I have all the horrible symptoms of a tight bra. Meaning, the straps around my body are WAY too tight, and the cup size is usually too small. What I've resorted to doing is buying a size 36A - which is still a little snug around the sides, but the cup fits ok, and I don't wind up with a stomach ache from the tightness. The main problem seems to be that bra manufacturers must think that in order for it to stay on, they need to add super-strength elastic. That's the problem I encounter. And then, if the straps fit, they seem to think my breasts will be larger than life! After having a baby, my bones seem to have widened more, so soon I'll probably be a 38A. LOL! Do they even make that size??? Thanks for your site!
Jen
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